Episode 39
Birth Story with Sarah: Navigating perinatal anxiety, an unmedicated birth, and postpartum preeclampsia

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Hello, hello, you are listening to the aligned birth podcast. This is Dr. Shane and today and today is interview day slash birth story day. I'm really excited about this to have more birth stories on the podcast here. And I have a mom from my office who so graciously said that she would love to share her birth story. So we're gonna go into that and why Why share your birth stories and I think I have so many thoughts on that because you know you have a million births and they are all going to be different. It's almost like that fingerprint that we have, like there are also individuals so unique. And I think there's beauty in sharing those birth stories. Now, yes, I think there's a history of people kind of projecting their birth story onto onto people. So that's never the intention that we have with the show, but it really is just sharing that story. I know Mitchell, my co host on the show, she and I have shared our birth story on here and several different episodes. And I feel like each time I do it, I have to I kind of have to sit down and process it. And I think when I allow my space and allow myself to process that like it really does help and it doesn't even have to be a traumatic birth story for you to kind of sit down and look at it and say, Whoa, what just happened? So that is why we wanted to come on and share our story. So Sarah is with us today. And her story is it's really fun and it takes it takes a different route you know, unexpected route, which is why we're sharing it today but I want to go into some of her prenatal history. Of course she was under chiropractic care my office which is awesome, but we also talk about perinatal mental health, perinatal anxiety, and how she set herself up for success there what her birth plan was and then how labor and birth unfolded. And then we're going to end with her postpartum aspect because it is very, very important I think for her to share part of her story in dealing with postpartum preeclampsia. So, again, welcome Sarah to the show. I'm so excited to have you on today. Yes, thank you. I am so excited to share everything. Yeah, I know I love when you I think we chatted on the phone after after your birth and just hearing the story but then it like didn't end there. So like I got to hear like your birth story. I love talking to the moms Yes. But then you like reached out again. It was like wait, this is what's going on now. So I kind of love that where it's like, okay, we're dealing with this now too. So I think your story is gonna help a lot of people. Oh, I hope so. I hope so. Yay. All right. So where I want to get started, because it's kind of like picking that that good sweet spot. I'd like to know who you had on that birth support team and some of this stuff that you it's kind of like you knew about yourself and you're like, hey, I think I need these resources to help me so maybe we just jump right in with some of that. perinatal mental health or those anxiety, thoughts and feelings as well. Yeah, so I got pregnant in January of 2021 and I went to my regular gynecologist for like to to confirm the pregnancy and with my doctor there, they have a midwife practice. So since I was young, low risk my first pregnancy I saw the midwives through my entire pregnancy. So that would be the first part of my care team was learning all the midwives and going to the monthly, then bi weekly and then weekly prenatal checks. So that was really good. And then also I started chiropractic care with you, I think around 27 weeks I I knew you from the gym. Yeah. I saw that you started a podcast and I actually started listening to it while I was pregnant. And just some things that you said really resonated with me about starting chiropractic care or prenatal chiropractic care. Because right when I was turning going into the third trimester, I was starting getting sciatica, and a whole all the host of back pains that come along with a big ol belly.

Unknown 4:58

Yeah, so we did that. And then during the third trimester, I started to develop some pretty severe anxiety and depression are just around a lot of lifestyle changes that come along with having a baby oh my gosh, because it's not only for you, it wasn't only just growing the baby and actually going through this unknown birth, but like you were working, right, yeah. So I was working full time. And then I switched to part time in the middle of my pregnancy, and then I knew going into it that I wanted to stay at home after delivery. So in my boss was so supportive. And she allowed me to work up until when I wanted to stop working. But then it just coming to terms with just your loss of a lot of identity comes along with your job. And that daily routine and all the people that you see at work I really struggled with. It was going to be a huge change in my lifestyle from going to working full time to being a stay at home mom and I didn't know what that looked like. So that was a big part of the anxiety also. Just the natural change in my relationship with my husband and what that would look like after ever after having a baby. I really struggled with that a lot. And how did how did roles look like? How did sharing responsibilities in the house? How would how would the dogs be taken care of how would the house be kept up? Who would cook meals who would do this? Who would do laundry just without having those conversations? I had a lot of anxiety of the impending workload of everything plus, taking care of a baby and who knows what that would look like. How would How would sleeping look like how would feeding look like how a diapering looked like I really struggled with all of that. Yes, no. And I think that's so I mean, that's so valid. You know, when you look at it, too. It's like oh my gosh, when you look at that big picture, it's like this is a really big life changing. And so much of it is in that unknown. So I think that's important for you to see it you know, because you were like, okay, yeah, birth is unknown, but so is this like, raising a life you know, yeah, is is a blessing. But also just having those networks and having those systems set up in place and having those conversations beforehand before having the baby really helped put me at ease along with some medication of course. And then also visiting a therapist that specializes in perinatal anxiety and depression. really set me up for having a better outcome, I think. Yes. And you know, because I remember you met with Ashley linker Phil I did. Yeah. Yes. So and I want to have her on the show at some point. She's on my radar. Yeah, is amazing. And so I remember when you came into the office one day and kind of mentioned these big thoughts and feelings, and I was like, Oh my gosh, I know a person here for you. So I think what's so amazing about that, too, though, is where you know, you're talking about like you had those conversations, you're like I'm feeling these things. And instead of just waiting for like, the postpartum time to kind of deal with all of it. I think that would have been even more overwhelming. So really saying, I've got to hit this home now. So that it doesn't get out of control and postpartum. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I know I love Ashley so I'm glad so that she was part of that bursa per team. And that's why I wanted you to talk a little bit about who's on your team because everybody's team can look so different. And I think that it's that it was awesome that she was on there as well. Yeah, so I did. I did a couple sessions with her. Post a pre prenatally and then I also went ahead and scheduled appointments with her postpartum so I think that's really important to also if you're having mental health problems, the hardest part is scheduling that appointment for postpartum and just talking through well how does things work now? And

Unknown 9:58

just touching base with how our thing How are you doing mentally the baby everybody wants to know about the baby. But how was mama doing? Exactly? And I think that's so key. And that's what I was actually gonna ask but then I was like, No, don't get into postpartum. Yeah, we haven't done. Yeah, knowing that like, okay, yes, I've done this prenatally, but here I'm also going to make those postpartum appointments. That's huge. That's huge. Yeah, I'm so glad for that now, um, who else did you have on there? I mean, obviously your husband's on there. Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. He was my husband was such a huge support during mainly labor and delivery. He really stepped up and in ways that I really didn't know that I needed and then also, I did a whole host of research about labor delivery. I probably watch every single YouTube video about somebody's labor and delivery experience. I was just gobbling it up. But I also did the the labor and delivery class through the hospital just so I knew exactly what to expect from the hospital side because I had a hospital birth and then I also did a non hospital birth class and it was through mommy labor nurse. I found her through Instagram. And she has three different birth classes and I really wanted a birth class. That didn't. Like didn't just go into detail about natural birth because I didn't know if that was my plan. I didn't want to set myself up for failure. And in a way, if you go into it, really wanting that natural birth and in the end, that's not what you get. I didn't want to have that pressure on me. So I took her birth it up epidural class, because that was That was my plan was to let's let's get this baby out and if I need an epidural, so be it and I just wanted to be prepared on all fronts. That and Rachel I have talked about this. I think we just did it on our seat. Family Centered C section episode. Yeah. You know, that fear like I was very much like, oh, that ain't gonna happen. I'm not even gonna look at it. I just that avoidance and then that's not the best way to go, right. So I'm proud of you for saying okay, I am going to look at all these and gobble up this information and it doesn't mean I'm putting out the energy to get that. But you're setting yourself up for success and my success. Yeah, and I just, I just remember, Ben would ask me what my birth plan was. And I would be alright, Scenario A, this is how I would want it to go then. But Plan B would be like, what if I need an epidural Plan C would be if I needed a C section and then plan D and S like I had every scenario covered in my head. And then also, I think what's important is that I made peace with it beforehand. So I didn't have to be blindsided by any decision that I would have to make in the hospital because I already put those plans on paper. And I knew what Plan A was I knew what plan B was. I knew what some of the worst case scenarios would be. And I was I was okay with it. Yes, and that's why you were okay with it. Though. Because you had ABC. Yeah. Yes. Now, and I love to because I was going to ask about your childbirth education class, because I know we had talked a little bit about that too. And you know, I do want to note this I love I love all the conversations that we had in the office because we talked about all of these things as because I like I take notes while doing these interviews. And I was like, oh, yeah, I remember Oh, yeah, I remember we talked about this at that appointment. We talked about this at that appointment, and we mentioned this here and so just kind of having that, that resource. I get the plethora of resources, you know, you can get referral, fatigue, but it's good to have all of those resource options. So I think it's important to know that you did the hospital class and you took an outside childbirth education and that is something I definitely love and recommend against and there's like experience because I didn't do that.

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Oh, yeah. And there's actually a ton of free labor and birth classes online. So I know laoise Does a free like a mini course. Also, I think like I think it's sponsored by pampers and they do a free webinars series. And so if it was free, and it was a birth class, I took it I took them all. Like, give me all the information. Yeah. Okay, so I want to get into the nitty gritty of so we have our all of our birth plan scenarios. So let's get into how everything unfolded. Okay, so So I guess just the whole labor and delivery story. Yeah, let's do it. Okay, so um, so I went to I was a 40 weeks and five days pregnant. So about of course, I listened to the evidence based birth podcast and that's probably that's like right perfect where they expect a first time mom to go into labor. And so I started having contractions at 530 in the morning on Friday, the 28th October 22. And my plan was to labor at home as long as I could. So as long as my water didn't break at home, or I couldn't handle the pain anymore, I wanted to stay at home as long as I could, because you can do whatever you want at home, you can walk you can bounce on your ball, you can watch TV, you can eat just relax and you're just more. You're warm, relaxed at home. So I did that all day until 9pm. And throughout the day, I was timing my contractions on my phone. And I waited until my contractions were about one minute long and four minutes apart. And by that time, it was nine o'clock at night. I didn't really want to go to bed. So what we did was that we like just casually put the dogs to bed. We packed our bags. I ate something pretty late at night and we drove to the hospital and Ben was like this is exactly opposite of what I was expecting. Going to the hospital was like speeding down the road. Yeah, he was expecting like drama. I guess he was expecting me. I don't know. But he was like this is like so surreal just driving to the hospital. Because I said like, you know what? I kind of feel like I could go to the hospital but I was also curious to see how far I was dilated while being contracting all day long. So we got to the hospital, and they did a cervical check and I was six centimeters dilated and 100% have faced so they were like wow, you are you're in your inactive lab right now. Yeah, we definitely admit you. And then so with my midwife practice, I think they have like seven midwives. And so you don't know who's gonna be on call that night when you go into the hospital, and thankfully, one of my favorite midwives was on call and she went above and beyond what I ever could imagine for my my experience, so she was nurse, Lesley halls IP, and she immediately asked what my wishes were for my birth. And she also asked them how involved did he want to be in the birth process? So and that was that was actually the first time that in any of my prenatal appointments, that somebody asked how involved the my husband want to be. And I was like, wow, I never really thought about that. How involved can your birth partner be your birth? And so I told I told my midwife that I wanted, I was open to an epidural. But of course I wanted to challenge myself and I wanted to see how far I could go without an epidural. And she was like, perfect. Let's get you straight into the shower. And then said that he asked her well, how involved can I be?

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And so he was all hands on deck and so the plan was for that Lesley deliver the head and Ben would catch the baby and he would place her on my chest when she was born. So he was super excited about being super involved in in the delivery. process. So I love it. Yeah, it was it was really interesting experience with having a midwife in the hospital so it can be very, very different. You know it you have that midwife versus Yeah, it is. Yeah, it was and so she told me that I needed that i in order for me not in order for me to get a pain, man pain free birth that I should go in the shower, but I never thought about laboring in the shower. And I was open to it and I tried it and I loved it. So we paid there was like a shower school in the shower and I sat on it and then I just turned the water as hot as I could take and the hot water along with listening to Hypno birthing meditation was incredible experience. And so I labored in the shower for our plan was to do an hour in the shower. And then I needed to get out of the shower for intermittent monitoring. So I did one hour in the shower, and then 15 minutes either laying in the bed or bouncing on the ball with the monitors on and then after they got their 15 minutes strip that the contractions were good and the baby's heart rate was fine. I rip those monitors off, went straight back into the shower. And then so I labored in the shower until two in the morning so I don't know how many hours that would have been but around two o'clock in the morning I was curious to see how far I've progressed and so I asked for a cervical check again. And then they said I was seven centimeters dilated so I only dilated one centimeter so I was like not bummed out but you could tell like oh you only progress to centimeter. So Lesley asked like would you want me to break your water that would of course speed things up but it also will make things a little bit more painful because it's don't build the contractions more. But it will kind of kick start things going a little bit faster. And I said fine. And so she broke my water and then I went back into the shower and I transitioned in the shower. So the what then what I had to do was that the contractions were getting pretty painful. So I asked for a cup of ice and I what I would do for the pain is that I would put the hot water where I was feeling the contractions either on my stomach or on my back and I would hold a handful of ice in my hand and squeeze it and so it tricks your brain into registering the pain from the coldness of the eyes instead of the contraction. So you're kind of tricking your brain in it can only process one pain signal at a time. And so since your arm is neurologically closer to your brain, in your spinal column, your brain picks up that pain from the eyes instead of your contractions. So I did that until 4am. And then I was in the shower and was like, oh goodness, I feel the urge to push and so right when you say that the nurses are like what you feel the urge to push. Yeah, so then they they got me out of the shower, and they checked me again. And so I went from seven centimeters to nine and a half centimeters in two hours. So that was at four o'clock in the morning.

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And then they said you're you're close enough. If you feel the urge to push, you can go ahead and start practicing to push and then anxiety just never happened. I was like, Oh my goodness. If I start pushing, there's only one way this ends up is that the baby is actually going to be here and I was like I was freaking out. I was so terrified for some reason. And I was also terrified of course of tearing and I it wasn't in my plan to not have an epidural. So it was like, Oh my goodness. I'm already to the pushing stage. I'm going to feel every bit of this. And so that's when my midwife really stepped in and she had to really coach me because I was probably the one thing during all the labor and delivery and birth classes. They I felt like they just said Alright, I'm going to push in the baby's gonna come but there's a lot of feelings. That Come With with pushing and delivering a baby and I really was caught off guard by that for some reason. Yeah, that's neat. That's neat to hear and think about that where that was the moment where you're like, oh wait. Yeah, it was really bizarre. And finally, the midwife and Ben both had to look at me and they're like, listen, you're you're going to have to push this baby out and I was like looking at them like I don't want to I mean eventually something takes over you and you kind of just have to push through it. And then they're here and it's so magical for some reason that when you look back on it, it's like it's the whole experience for I don't know how this happens, but it's just so all inducing, like wow, that that actually happened. Mm hmm. I know and I just have a big old grin on my face as you're like telling your story because I'm just like, Yes, I know. It's crazy. Yeah, so um, so I pushed for like an hour and a half. Well, semi pushed, I was mainly making a ton of noises and then they finally fighting through it in your head like okay, I have to push like you were kind of, you know, working up to it. I can totally see that. Yeah, yeah. So it was a lot of definitely having to get over my fear of pushing, and just actually like, getting to work and doing it. So I really don't think that I pushed all that much it was just a whole lot of me being in my own head. And so she was born at 530 in the morning and my midwife delivered her head and then they had been all suited up with a gown and gloves and he caught her and I held her up and she started screaming and he put her on my chest and we did the it was it's practice now at Kennestone to do delayed cord clamping and so while she was laying on my chest, they were looking around over making sure that everything looked good and once the cord kind of stopped pulsing, then he been clamped record and then we were able to do our golden hour of skin to skin well. I delivered the placenta and then the midwife did some minor minor stitch repair work. So and then and then she was here and did choose here. Yeah. Oh my goodness. I love it. I love it. I love your story. I think it's so fun.

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Yeah, so how did that feel after that? Alright, so um, so then we got we switch to from labor and delivery to the mother baby unit and pretty much everything after that was smooth sailing like, I mean, we were exhausted and tired. I think we stayed up for like 30 hours without sleeping. So we were just dying to get out of the hospital and back home. So we were actually I was discharged. So I had her 530 Saturday morning and then we went home before lunchtime on Sunday. So they really, since I did all my checks, I was able to walk around I went to the bathroom on my own. So I did everything that we needed to do. Cecilia past all of her hearing and her bilirubin levels and she didn't she had she was so healthy after the birth. We were able to go home quite quickly. So then we were just in on cloud nine. It was part and we were home and family visited and then things kind of took a turn. I know I know and this is where so you and I chatted pretty quickly after that. I believe it's I remember the story and all of that and I came over we chatted in person or it was just like oh since it was born other guy guys. And then I know because we were talking about scheduling your postpartum read. Yes. And so kind of like okay, when can I come back? into the office blah blah blah, get the checkup and everything. And yeah, so then you reached out again with the rest of your story. Yeah, yeah. So exactly one week postpartum is this was actually on Halloween. So we had a wonderful, baby. Yes. And I was we were so excited for her first holiday. So she was dressed up as a little dog nation. And that whole day I was like, I just wasn't feeling quite right like some I couldn't really put my finger on it. I just kind of felt like bled. I had a I think I had a slight headache. But it's kind of like the headache where where you didn't sleep enough and of course you have a newborn you're really not getting much good quality sleep. And then I also had some abdomen pain. And it's kind of like felt like gas or something like that. And I was just like, well, we've been eating takeout and our family's been over we've been they've been bringing us meals from restaurants that weren't typically in our day to day diet. So I was thinking like, Well, I think it is just like my body's not my body's getting used to postpartum and you're eating. Not the greatest, to be honest. But then, as we went throughout the day, and we went trick or treating. I remember just sitting in the nursery, and I was like something, something really isn't right even though I feel I don't feel like the worst ever. Something just doesn't feel quite right. And I remember while you're getting discharged in the hospital, the nurse goes through this laundry list of things like what to watch out for postpartum, like if you have a fever if you have this if you have that. And so, we were looking through all of our discharge papers and trying to find this paper that had this list of symptoms that if you experienced this, please call your doctor. More worst case scenario.

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Can't see room. And so we read through this list of symptoms. And I was like, Yeah, I don't feel good. I have a headache. I have, like this abdomen pain. I was like, we should probably check my blood pressure. And so we packed up the baby and we went to Kroger with one of those free blood pressure check kits. And immediately the screen went red like your blood pressure is sky high. I think it was like 150 over 100 which is so so high for me especially. And so I took my blood pressure a couple more times, just just in case. And then we went we went straight to the emergency room. And this that knew that was probably so scary, knowing that something could Be really raw so we went to the emergency room and the last place you want to be on Earth with a newborn babies emergency where Oh yeah and then you're on Halloween as well It's you know yeah Free oh yes yes so we go to the emergency room We have the baby beds with me And I I see that The ER is just packed like You can tell like people are just scared Everywhere is So sociopath And we go To check in And the lines of check in to the ER was like Out the door And you The pediatric er Are you Nurse sees the stroller and waves need On saying you have a beat Let's check you in and I was like No no no it's not for her it's for me actually Ladies and she She was like oh no I can check you in though And then she was like honestly I wouldn't have Your baby and you She I would take her to the car But of course Breast Feeding she she needs to eat Every two hours and I didn't not really wanting to be separated from My baby So the nurse checks me in and Amelie We may do vitals on me And I Can't put straight into a triage room I don't even say In the first waiting room to get into a triage And then And so the baby sitting In the car I'm in a triage room and then I get put into A second way to Room to wait For a beds in the ER And you can just Tell how crowded it was because people were coming claiming that they've been there for like six to eight hours And I was just like How am I going to be able to do this is with a newborn baby needs to eat and they said that I I was able to go In and out and be yours I could go down to the parking lot nursed her and come back I'm so I You talked with the nurse that was in the waiting Room and I told her I'm leaving I'm still here urbanistic Hi my name For some reason I'm downstairs and My baby and she looked at me and she was like What She asked me how Old my baby was and I said eight days old And she was like oh My goodness shook her head And He said let me Let me work something out like you Go downstairs nurse your baby I'll see what I couldn't do so I went downstairs I probably was nursing for Like not even five minutes And I got a phone call from the hospital Say You need to get back here have a bed ready for you and And we're really concerned cerned about your health So At that point Since we had a bedroom For me Sicilia advance We're able to come back into the ER mi m At that point visit We're okay But then And we didn't so they We went into the ER than they gave me some blood pressure medicine and said that I have postpartum Be plant sia

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so they needed to get my blood pressure down because It can cause strokes and seizures If your blood pressure goes unchecked for are a longtime Hi So After we sat in the ER for For a long long long long Time Emily got transferred back into labor and delivery For even more money For my blood pressure And then With blood pressure medicine They will be discharged the next day And then I was on blood pressure medicine until Oh you're I was sick speaks close partner And That was probably Each one of us scariest day I would say like was not knowing If the blood The pressure would go down I mean I know and when We talked on the phone though too I was just saying What what yeah And that's what's so It's so incredible with your story though too is that there's really not To be very clear Risk factors for developing postpartum pregnant because you didn't have preeclampsia during your pregnancy you know that History of blood pressure issues now go It's not necessarily I mean There's no Pyrus back So yeah this is one They do those like here's your list have symptoms and things to look at I think if you To be acknowledged the fact that you did Didn't discredit those Things that you were feeling you know where You're like thanks for just off Yeah really say Okay this is weird I need to go and I'm glad That They listen to You know oh yeah this There's definitely something serious so as long as stressful is that can be You're thankful that they weren't like oh You just need to drink some water oh you haven't You just need to rest you know Like I mean that Definitely huge and I can't I know like I'm sure the strip It just feels out of body probably You tell the story now you're like I can't believe did that or went through that yeah That is true it's definitely We One of those experiences where Are you I actually have to run my like remind myself that happened I think I kind of tried to forget it but Yeah I think it's really important for people to know that Even if you have a healthy price Let's see even if you have a very high delivery you're not out of the woods until you're six weeks old Part of and you really need to take care Have yourself and you really need to listen to your body because you Definitely when you're a new mom you're under a lot of strain on your Body and yeah you just need a list into it and you know when some He's wrong he's wrong that way and I That's it That's so important because has to I also follow I'm Mommy labor nurse on insulin GRAEME And And I love the stuff that sheep It's out there but literally just a few days ago I came across something You thought but she said pregnant mamas needed are the warning signs of postpartum preeclampsia yeah and I was like oh my gosh Sarah and I gotta tell about this because we already had this scheduled and so I was like oh this is so Awesome and what she was saying is Pretty much everything you said it used Exodus 48 Hours of birth but can develop up to six weeks postpartum so yes again that's why that that six week time period is Important Too Listen to your body Like you were saying And to take care of yourself and try to get the rest and do those things are saying because You do have a lot of healing to go through yeah and that timeframe But list of symptoms because I do want to go through this SHE SAYS IT'S HOT High Blood Pressure excess protein in your urine which you may not know that at You know the house but severe headaches Changes vision so blurry vision lights sensitivity that type of thing but pain and upper belly usually under the ribs on the right side nausea and vomiting shortness of breath breath or decreased urination So I just thought that That was so interesting I was like Oh my gosh we're going to talk about that she's just gonna saying it because I don't think you know And yes it's rare but that's my Think your story is so important to us And those takeaways is to not I disagree Are those symptoms that you hear and to read trust that that mommy and tuition that you have now you know Yeah yay Well I'm so glad I'm doing Good so things are good Now correct

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oh yeah thanks Is there a great system Yeah she's the You easiest problem She's so easy she You're such a trooper even Through all of this through all the hospital true EPS that we've been to She's sleeping Great she eats great She just wakes up smile She He's just just we just taught her every way She's just down for anything You're on yeah she's such a great Maybe and we just saw each other recently Should I do mom hikes at my office so I got to I got to see her again and yeah she's so sweet and she It's a good on the hikes I think yeah but I think I know I'm so glad that you shared your story and how our You We're doing Right How are you recovering Now I And I guess 100 Not what 100% back to normal But I'm back To us I'm trying to work out when I can Whenever I have Free A couple hours that I can go on a run or something I try to go out on a run I'm feeling So much Better definitely still Keeping a close I on my mental health especially Surely with Being a stay at home mom It's pretty isolating so I I try to get out Do something out of the house once a day because you can really get into this the runt of state In your eat sleep wake cycle just not getting out of the house because that's easy Really trying to challenge myself like this On your height too Get me out of the house Seeing people that's beside I'm the baby and my husband that's really important to me Yeah and I think those are beautiful things to focus on now too and again I think they're all stem From your Are you nuts self awareness and yeah Okay I may have The history of these types of thoughts and views feelings What can I do to support myself

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yeah Yay ah Thank you so so much for sharing your story

Unknown 15:15

Don't worry i love it i had a grin on my face Hold on during the postpartum preeclampsia is just like But how unfolded I think is really really good I love hearing about You know the people that you surround your Software and all the people that were there To support you So congrats on Your baby my friend that says Joe and yeah yes Thank you so much for chatting with Leap Day in sharing your story Thank you so much